Fahrenheit 451 Live Blogging 25-40 period 2
posted by annes @ 1:14 PM
Smith's 9th Honors Class Blog
Thoughts, observations, comments, and concerns regarding our readings and classroom discussions.
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- Alex_Manning
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- Declan "Danger"
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- Phillip
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77 Comments:
I really wanted to bring this up-What's up with the Hound? WHy is it "angry" at him?
Then why would Beatty be mean to him? That doesn't really make sense...who else would have done it? Or did it actually get smart?
Just one quick question... why do you think Montag stole the book? Is he intrigued with Clarisse's comments?
I think that the mechanical hound was for protecting the firehouse, my question is why does it hate montag?
I think the hound can sence that Montag has a book. Im pretty sure Montag does have a book too, because he always thinks about the object in the vent. He also had a book fall on him when they were going to light that ladies books on fire. He tried to read it. He also said "Once upon a time" from a fairy tale book. He can read and he wants to read. I think the object Montag has is a book and the hound can sence it because he is a robot.
When technology gets so andvanced to make things like the hound things are bound to go wrong. anyone seen I, Robot??? thats what i'm talking about.
chelseah-I think that what she said about reading them before burning them, and the devotion of the lady finally got to him.
I think the amino acid idea is an excuse. Either that, or Beatty suspected him of having a book and put them there on purpose to catch him.
To answer Alex's question, The Hound sniffs out the books because when Montag takes the book from the woman's house (pg. 39). The Hound growls at Montag when he touches the muzzle. I think that Montag has been stealing books ever since he started being a fireman.
I think that claireese is different than everyone else because of her upbringing. She grew up with an uncle who challenges the system all the time. We are all products of our experiences. her experiences were different
sarahc-it is the thing that a butterfly uses to suck up nectar-it's basically a nose/mouth--
I think it was Beatty that was telling him about how a fireman in another area tried to commit suicide by setting the hound to attack when it recognized his amino acids. I think someone may have been setting it up to look like Montag committed suicide.
sarah c- clarisse got hit by a car.
I think that tis is a classic example of the government having too much power in the running of things. This may happen one day in our modern world.
in response to alea, i think he thought he loved his work. he, being brought up with the government's lifestyle etc. was maed to believe he was happy, but until he met claireese he didnt know what real happieness was, so when he got to know her he realized that he didnt have it.
aleea-I think that he, when he first met Clarisse, had convince himself that he liked it, then Clarisse brought him up to fresh air, and he's finally actually thinking about it.
Yeah i wonder what repercussions that will have on Montag.
Hannah, way to just ruin the book, we only needed to read to page 40 for today and that happens later. So, sarcastically, thank you for spoiling it for us. ;)
hannahj
She got hit by a car? I missed that.
hannahj- I don't remember, but were they sure if Clarisse really go hit by a car?
I disagree with the goverment having to much power. the only athority mentioned in the book has been the firemen. It is more thet the people don't have enough responsibility and just do what they want.
joshb-I think that you're right, but I think that the people let it become that way. I'm not sure we will.
i think that they called the hound a hound because they don't know any better. i think that they don't know what an insect is, so they just called it a hound. maybe they dont think a hound is the same thing that we think it is
alee-Montag enjoys his job for the first few pages of the book, you can see this in the first sentence, "It was a pleasure to burn." But as Montag starts talking to Clarisse, he starts to realize that all the books he's stolen over the years might come back to haunt him. He realizes that someone took the time to write that book and in 2 seconds, the fireman are taking away all that they had worked on.
clarisse getting hit by the car is farther into the book than we had to read.
I do not think that the hound has been stripped of its personality because it is man made.
No I think that Clarisse did too.
Oh was that in a later part of the book where she gets hit? Sorry about that, but it's on page 47.
Alee, I think Montag likes his job because he gets to be close to litterature. What other job there would allow you to be so close to books? Plus, being in this business gives him the opprotunity to take them and read them. What other job in this society would allow you to do anything with books? It doesnt seem like any job would involve books, seeing as they are illegal and all.
What makes Clarisse so powerful? Whye does she choose Montag? How come her family knows the real truth about the past? Or ARE they really crazy, and the past that we think is right is really not right? How come Montag is so overcome by Clarisse and everything she says really gets to him?
AHHH don't TELL me that Clarisse got hit by a car! I agree with Sara
I think Guy liked his job because it was all he had known, he dad and grandfather were both firemen. He just thought that was the way of life.
I think the Hound is probably something that they have built especially for a certain purpose. It helps them in the work that they have to do, because a normal dog couldn't do what it does.
I knew that 10 of Clarisse friends got hit by a car. But if Clarisse did get hit by a car and it is past page 40 please don't mention it because most people have just read the required pages! Thanks!
Clarisse didn't get hit by a car!!!!!!!
This books references to color and a government that controls everything seems a ton like the giver... does anybody see this as well?
kjerstinl - I tink that she had tried before, and that had given her the "insane" title. I'm not sure she specificallly picked him-he just happened to believe her.
chelsea-unfortunately she did get hit by a car, it's on page 47.
Brian, I really don't think that he has the job to be close to literature. It's been said more than once that reading books is illegal, and they are trying to get rid of the books so that people won't read. Now I wonder why is this and who it was to make people think this? Is this because technology has gotten so great? They're losing all sense of real things from technology.
I don't think poison really symbolizes anything. I think all the parts with poison in them are just there to enhance the book. Saying poison is a symbol for something other than poison may be over analyzing. Although, Ray Bradbury does use a lot of metaphors.
We're not to page 47 yet!!!! we're only discussing to page 40!
Wait... does Clarisse die as a result? I haven't read that far...
she did? i would have never guessed!
Josh, I think that the hound hasnet been stripped of personality as well, because if we have learned anything from this unit, its that there is evolution. It is a classic example, we see it everywhere. Movies, books, etc. you cant control somthing forever. And it seems that when technology gets too advanced, it will adapt and learn and form its own personality. The mechanical dog is on a low scale, but i think it has developed a personality.
kimmy-I think that Montag has been taking books from all the houses he's burnt ever since he started working. He probably never agreed with the new laws that were put into place by the government about books and he was still curious about them. There's a couple places in the book where before it sets the fire, he reads a sentence in a book and he tries to remember it.
When Clarisse asked if he ever read the books, he kind of seemed like she offended him somehow since it was illegal.
adamb-Is it really the evil in mankind? Or the evils of government? Order?
I agree with adam. I think the blog moves so fast that no one really takes the time to take in what other people are saying. It is a lot like Fahrenheit 451 in the sense that everything is kind of impersonal.
woah there. calm down, it's already been said a million times in here.
take a chill.
Dont get so uptight, its just a book.
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Is this book showing a glimpse of what life could possibly be like in the future?
I think that the reason that Montag is a fireman is because he was just given the job, nott because he really likes it. Because it seems that in the society they have a certain schedule that they follow everyday.
Adam watch your grammar, you spelled 3 words wrong(heheheheheheheheheheh)
Kjerstinl did you notice that ever since Clarisse asked if he had asked if he read the books, he was reading the first parts of some of the books he was burning?
sarah c-I think that creativity is worth death. I would hate(no, not dislike) to live in a world without creativity.
Will the actions of te lady burning herself with the book lead to Montag really changing the world by realizing the false world that they live in?
yeah someone asked a question, i just answered it.
and i've already read this book.
Yea adam I wish that the internet would refresh automatically
don't we all
aleea-there is no need for emotion-there is nothing to cause it.
I think that eventually montag is going to try to challenge the government with clarisse and her family....except clarisse is gone for some reason
kjerstein-Montag's thinking has been changed because of Clarisse and now the woman being burned. His thinking has been changed and I've also noticed that he seems to care more now by some of the stuff that he's said.
kjerstinl-that's an interesting thought. It seems like he will overturn it in the future.
connor- Montag has technically already challenged the system, by bringing home that book. But i do agree, i think that he will continue to do it, and on a higher level.
Brian and Adriana make good points.
We haven't really heard much about the government, could it just be the people who are afraid of books and knowledge? History is life, so how come they are afraid of this? Are they afraid that people will go back to ways that people acted before? Is the technology just their all-time right answer, so whatever it says is right is right?
Because of clarisse he cared about the women dying...if he had been as he was before he wouldnt have cared much at all. The woman dying for the books makes him want him more
ok people we get it. we won't make comments about stuff ahead of the assigned pages.
calm down.
it's gonna be ok.
I agree with chelseah and I think that Montag will eventually be caught with many books.
elyse~ that is a really good point! i wonder how they decide which books to burn...
wait, I missed when he brought the book home. What page was that on?
aleea I think that he was just making sure that firemen didn't put out fires before because Clarisse is making him rethink everything he has known.
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yea he got the book from an old man right and he stores it in the ventillator. I mean that he will publicly try to challenge them and he will try to get followers
They burn all the books i think why choose
Chelseah. In the first part of the book page 1-24 it says what books they burn on MWF maybe there are only three authors left because books are banned.
paigen~ Yes, I do agree and also in LOF maybe the beastie wakes them up to make them realize everything. Also, since Piggy was the civilized one, that kind of kept them in shape until...Piggy was killed.
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