Period 2; blog for you
We have some questons for you.
•At the end of the book, how did it make you feel? How did your feeling for Winston and Julia change as you read the book?
•Out of all the characters in 274-297, who influenced the breaking of Winston the most? How?
•What was the significance of using fear in ‘Room 101’? What would be in your ‘Room 101’? and why?
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Jessica B., Alexander D., and Elyse H.
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posted by alexd @ 11:58 AM
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I think that Winston influenced the breaking of himself the most. Winston finally broke when HE told them to do anything to Julia that is when HE started loving Big Brother. If he didn't let his fears control him, then he wouldn't of broken. It is kind of like he is his own worst enemy.
-When I finished the book, I felt depressed. Unlike Fahrenheit 451, which left you with an optimistic outlook, 1984 leaves you with a feeling of defeat and utter sadness. As soon as I read the last section, I felt like all hope was lost (not a good feeling). :( Throughout the book, I have constantly felt dread and anticipation. I felt this way because of all the predictions that were made, and the impossible to escape ending. I was anticipating each new event, waiting for Winston and Julia to be caught.
-I think that O'Brien influenced the breaking of Winston the most because he was there from the beginning. He was with Winston from the very moment he read the diary (not literally) until he left the Ministry of Love. He helped cause Winston to break because he was the one who helped influence his decision to surrender his mind, and self to the Party. He did this through pain, fear, and sometimes kindness. Ultimately, in the big picture, the Party itself really broke Winston because O'Brien is only one person involved in "curing" Winston.
-The significane of using your greatest fear in Room 101 is that it is something you would do anything to escape. It relates to how the Party rules its people by fear; it only makes sense that the way the convert them is through fear. As for my greatest fear, that is something even I don't really know.
1. At the end of the book, I felt like the world was void of all hope. Winston rebelled and rebelled, but what for? He was killed in the end anyway. I never really liked Julia as much as Winston, but later in the book, (the end) I began to understand why Julia and Winston were always waiting for the day they'd be caught.
2. O' Brien. He was the one who broke/ fixed Winston.
3. The entire society was on fear and hate. By using fear, they could take anything out of a person, and with hate they could put anything back in. My 'Room 101' would be slightly confusing. The thing I am most afraid of is 'forever' or 'infinity.' So I guess my 'Room 101' would never end! Ahhhh!
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I read 1984 last year, but I have the same feelings about it as I did before. I had expected Winston to overcome the ideas and doctrines that the Party was putting in his head and have some victory in his rebellion. I did not expect him to completely succeed in defeating the Party, but I never thought that Winston would capitulate and come love Big Brother. The book left me feeling a little depressed and I kind of wondered why Orwell would make Winston rebel against the Party if it would only end up futile in the end.
For the second question, I would say that I agree with Paige and Sarah. I also think that Julia influenced Winston’s breaking because, although Winston never saw her or had any contact with her in the Ministry of Love, the thought of her helped Winston endure the Party’s beatings and mental tortures. However, when O’Brien told Winston that Julia had betrayed him, Winston lost his resolve and did not care about keeping the qualities of humanity- his love and compassion for another human being besides himself. This ultimately led to his breaking and his eventual love of Big Brother and the Party.
The use of the fear of Room 101 was important because fear is a strong emotion that causes people to act in ways that they wouldn’t otherwise. Fearful people are easy to manipulate because oftentimes they lose sight of everything in their lives except their desire to get away from their fear. O’Brien easily caused Winston to do the one thing that he swore he would never do (betraying Julia) by making Winston face his biggest fear- rats. When faced with the rats, Winston, not thinking about the love he once had for Julia or anything else, said, “Do it to Julia!” in an effort to escape the rats. This may sound stupid, but my Room 101 would be a room full of spiders, a place where I am completely and fully isolated form everyone and unable to do anything about it, or a place where I was unable to do anything of value that actually matters in life.
At the end of the book, I really felt depressed. I momentarily turned emo! Shocking I know! Anyways, since I already saw the play it wasn't all the suprising to me althogh really I think it could have been better! My views of Winston and Julia didn't really change too much. I just began to think of them more as old people rather than anything else.
i'm thinking that the purpose of room 101 is to completely break the person inside said room. winston had already been through a bunch of other stuff, and it was all kind of leading up to room 101. once winston was all tired out and what not, he had to face his worst fear, and it completely broke him.
if they could somehow put heights in a room, that would be in my room 101. seriously, i get all shaky once i get to like the third step on a ladder. they could also put robots in there, but i'm not really afraid of them, i just hate 'em. no joke. if you ever show me a robot i'll just beat it senseless. so i guess what i'm saying is, at our 30th high school reunion on mars, keep your robot away from me.
wait...can you beat a robot senseless? because they started out without senses. ponder that.
The end of the book made me feel sad and optimistic. It seemed like somehow Winston would succeed in his rebellion. I had high hopes for a downfall of the Party, but then was shocked when I was suddenly hit by Winston being arrested and tortured senselessly until he ironically loved Big Brother. The ending is very strange because it ends on such a negative note and pretty much puts down the reader, making them feel like there is no hope. My feelings for Winston and Julia changed because their love wasn't the typical love story I had imagined it. I thought that Winston would never betray Julia and would die loving her. I thought Julia would do the same for Winston, but on the contrary, at the end each betrayed eachother and literally didn't care what the Party did to the other. The ending just wasn't what I expected.
I thought Obrien influenced the breaking of Winston the most because of his treatment that he gave him. I also believe Obrien influenced him the most because he brought him to Room 101 and threatened him with the rats, which ultimately broke Winston and forced him into loving Big Brother.
The significance of using fear in Room 101 is that the government controls its people through fear. Fear is one of the strongest emotions we as humans have. Fear can control someone, and the Party takes advantage of this in Room 101.
It is hard to say what would be in my Room 101. At first I thought of death as being my greatest fear, but then I immidiatly thought of something different because that wouldn't be the greatest thing to meet in Room 101. But after much thought, I've decided that my Room 101 would contain either one of two things: the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz or Michael Jackson. Just kidding of course.
This book made me feel very depressed because there was no happy ending whatsoever. Winston didn't rebel against the Party and he and Julia didn't end up together. O'Brien influenced the breaking of Winston the most because of all the interrogation and questioning he had to go through. The significance of using fear in Room 101 is just to hold something so powerful over the person's head that they have no choice but to surrender and love Big Brother. My room 101 would either have spiders, clowns or dolls, or the ultimate worst-clown dolls. You can't get scarier than that. hahaha
At the end of the book I thought that Winston stopped challenging the system. He promised that he would never betray Julia and that he would never let BB get inside his head and change his thoughts. However, Winston was broken down by torture and pain as well as fear and stopped challenging the system.
I think that O'Brien was most responsible for breaking down Winston because he was the controller of all the torture tools. I also think that the rats were a big proponent in the break down of Winston.
The significance of using fear is that it is almost impossible for people to face up to it. Fear is a really strong tactic in order to break people down until they are nothing.
In my room 101, my fears are snakes and sharks. AHHH!!
I really liked the eventual outcome of this story. I think it puts thing into perspective, and is true to real life. Winston is the true human being in these few novels that we've read, and I really enjoy that point of view.
O'Brien. For sure. He is the one who ultimately convinced Winston that he loved Big Brother. He is the one who did the most for Winston, which I think influenced him a lot. I'm not saying it was good what he did, but I can understand why Winston would follow him eventually.
I'm not sure what my '101' has to do with anything here, but I'll do it anyways.
My room 101 would probably involve a lot of intoxicated senseless people killing themselves. That would scare the h-e-doublehockeystick outta me.
Theres other things, but not now.
I thought it was interesting how Winston feared room 101 the most when really it's not the room he should be afraid of, but what is in the room which in Winston's case was the rats. I thought this section was significant because since Winston faced his fears of rats which i though was simbolic of the fears of all the people and of Big Brother, he also overcame his fear and hate of BB. at the very end of the book, Winston changed his mind about BB and decided that he really liked him and no longer hated him, I think this has to do with him overcoming or facing his fears of rats. I thought room 101 was really ironic because everybody hated this room and they all thought that they would never make it out of this room alive. They thought that the party tortured them when really in this room that was feared, was the thing that that person feared the most. If I were sent to a room 101, in that room would be spider, because i am deathly afraid of spiders, but i don't know if that is my biggest fear of all. I was thinking that if someones greatest fear was dieing or drowning to death, or falling to their death, really anything to do with death, would O'Brien and the party kill you in room 101. I just thought this was interesting.
By the end of the book, personally, I loved the party, they are doing quite a fine job. Seriously, though, I was definitely pro-party by the end, I don't really know why. Possibly because of their systematic ways that have been perfected.
O'Brien influenced him the most because he was Winston's only friend and the only person who Winston could talk to, making him the only one who could directly effect him.
There was no significance of using fear in room 101. All that the fear was for was to ultimately break the person. If I were in room 101, which most likely happen in my future, would be a small elevator playing nothing but Kenny G, all the time. I would be begging for anyone but me to suffer it instead.
At the end of the book i was really confused about the ending. The ending didn't fit with the rest of the book. It was bland and boring. The fire within Winston and Julia was gone and i personally didn't like them in the end. They gave up.
I actually think that it was Winston who broke himself down. And O'Brien just aided to the process.
If your scared you usually give in to the things that they ask of you. I dont think that my fear could be in room 101 cuz its heights and that would be hard to do. i would give into anything to get down from heights. no joke
yeah endsley! you and me can be buddies on solid ground! go us.
I thought the ending was really weird. The whole book was about challenging the system and how to not give in. But in the end Julia and Winston both gave up. It just doesn't seem to fit.
I think O'Brien broke Winston down the most because Winston had high hopes for O'Brien but he wrecked them.He was also the one in the room that brought Winston back to loving BB and the party.However,I also like what endsleye said. Winston broke himself down. He had extremely high expectations that were not fulfilled and trusted people that could not be trusted. Those were personal mistakes that were very significant at the end.
Using fear in room 101 is important because it makes people fear what will happen if they go in there. No one wants to go in a room where they think they will be tortured or killed so they are extra careful. In my room 101, there would be millions and millions of geese. The story is on the discussion from earlier but long story short, I was at the park with my mom when I was about three and I had a big piece of bread in my hand. About two or three grown geese backed me into a tree and snapped at me and bit me. I still have nightmares sometimes. So that would for surely be my torture.
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yay declan go us!
I thought it was strange how they just seemed to give up and not care. It made me a little mad about how they just gave up on each other and what they were fighting for. After Julia was mostly thrown out of the picture, I stopped caring about her, but was curious about how Winston still felt toward her. As Winston changed, however, I began disliking him, especially because he was giving up. I kept hoping that maybe he would succeed, or die trying, but he gave in.
O'Brien seemed to influence Winston the most, because he was around him the most. One thing I found strange was how O'Brien could be so two-faced.
Fear in Room 101 was the final stage to make someone want the one person they love to hurt, in order for the only person or thing that they could love would be Big Brother. For me, losing my family and friends would be in my "Room 101" because without them, I don't know how I would survive.
Throughout the book, Winston's struggle only seemed hopeless. It just got worse. Even though meeting Julia made Winston happier. Her attitude towards revolution made his cause seem even more impossible. I agree with the opinion that it is depressing how they gave up on each other and became empty and lifeless. However, like alexm, I liked the ending. It shows an alternate view. Even in other dystopia books such as F451, the whole humanity and spirit of man thing is triumphant. In a way, Orwell was being realistic and maybe a bit cynnical(which isn't that bad). I liked that alternate way to end it.
My room 101....I don't know. Probably a room full of Johnny Tremain books that I would have to read, annotate and find vocabulary words in. I think I could wish that fate on anyone else.
Maybe a person's greatest fear is affected by things in the past. I think it was saram who described the geese. (I have similar memories, though not quite as traumatic, but I see where your coming from)
Once I finished the book, I was disappointed as well as a little angry. As s oon as Winston finally realized that he loved Big Brother, I felt that he betrayed himself in a way. He betrayed himself for all that he worked up against Big Brother and suddently that didn't mean anything any more. The differences I saw in Julia and Winston at the end of the book is that they didn't seem to care to live the best out of their life. I guess since they almost lost their lives, that could show that they would be more careful, but when becoming a true member of the Party and loving Big Brother, it just drowns them. And to think, that these two were determined to die for the cause of getting rid of Big Brother.
Out of all the characters, I think that O'Brien led to the breaking of Winston the most. Winston had trust in Winston, and Winston even thought that he loved O'Brien. The diary was for O'Brien, O'Brien was somebody Winston felt a connection to. I think that people of this, O'Brien was able to control Winston more easily to get Winston to the state that the Party wanted.
I think that the use in fear in Room 101 signifies how fears control how people act in someways, and that these fears can be used against people to get what they want. In my Room 101... I'd either have something to do with heights, or, something to do with mice. Eek!
At the end of the book, I was actually able to predict what was going to happen. I thought that if Winston made it out alive of the Ministry of Love and Room 101, then he would go on living the life that O'Brien had wanted him to. I also guessed that Winston and Julia would meet again, but i knew that it would be a much different experience than before.
I think that Winston was the biggest influence in his own breaking down, because they say that if you put your mind to it you can accomplish anything. I think that he got to the point of not being able to handle anymore torture or interrogation, so he was ready for O'Brien to do whatever he wanted to him.
I think that by putting ones biggest fear in Room 101, they knew that it would be the final straw in making them nothing. If they are already so weak, and are then attacked by their biggest fear, they would be nothing.
In my Room 101, i would probably have something like spiders or snakes. Im actually not really afraid of that many things. :D
O' Brien definitely influenced the breaking of Winston the most. he made sure that every trace of everything other than bi brother was eliminated from Winston's body.
That was the most depressing book ever. It is so sad that it ended like that. They loved each other so much and then at the end they barely even talked to each other. The bad guys won and that pretty much sucks.
I think that Julia was the character that made Winston break because she was his weak point that put him over the edge. My room 101 fear would definitely be spiders, just lots of big spiders crawling over me.
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